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Stupid Spammer Watch: Go Ahead; Fling Away


By Ken Magill

[Warning: Politically incorrect and coarse language ahead.]

So apparently Stophaus isn’t dead. They were just resting. And now they or someone who sympathizes with them are threatening me.

The day after last week’s piece ran claiming anti-Spamhaus group Stophaus’s site had stopped loading and their Twitter feed had gone dormant, the following charming tweet directed at me appeared:

TheSTOPhaus Movement‏@stophaus14 Aug

@Kmagill Here's an update for you - The STOPhaus Movement will never die as long as Spamhaus are acting like censorfag Dictators. #Cyberwar

On the same day, someone posting as “Your Mama” on The Magill Report left a comment that included the following:

“So, are you just publishing Spamhaus propaganda now Ken? Do you need to be a target? Do you need to be exposed for being a two-faced spammer/spam-fighter...double agent for industry? Do you need to have your name drug through the mud to let it go? If so, we would be obliged to do so if needed.”

Message to Your Mama:

Do you understand the concept of irony? Stophaus and its sympathizers claim to be anti-censorship and yet I publish something you don’t like and you threaten me.

And: “two-faced spammer/spam-fighter...double agent for industry?” What the hell does that even mean? Expose away.

Yes, by all means drag my name through the mud. But remember, when you drag a pig’s name through the mud, the pig likes it.

Someone once posed as me in a discussion group asking where to find porn. You know what pissed me off? Not that they posed as me looking for porn. What pissed me off was they posed as me being too stupid to find porn on the Internet without help.

If I worked for a large corporation today, I’d be sent to sensitivity training. And I’d flunk miserably—or happily, depending on how you look at it. It’s one reason I work at home.

You know why I smoke cigars? Yes, I love the flavor of a good one. But they also offer the added benefit of their stench keeping people away from me. It helps them instantly feel about me exactly how I feel about them. And we don’t even have to talk to one another to get our feelings of mutual loathing straight.

And you know that drunken uncle every family dreads seeing on Thanksgiving? In my family, I am that drunken uncle.

Oh, and one other thing. Guess who would love to see you inflict damage on me. Members of the anti-spam discussion group Nanae, that’s who. How’s that for irony, Your Mama? You go after me and the one group who cheers you on is the group you hate most with the possible exception of Spamhaus.

Nanae has been sneering at me for more than a decade.

As a result, I occupy a space in the email ecosystem no one else on the planet does: Crazy, poo-flinging spammers [you] hate me just as much as crazy, poo-flinging anti-spammers [Nanae].

Maybe you two can put your differences aside and team up just for this.

Picture me with a toothbrush mustache and think of yourselves as Great Britain and United States, and Russia during World War II. After all, Internet craziness isn’t complete without a Nazi reference.

So fling away, Your Mama. I can’t wait to see what you come up with.


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Terms: Feel free to be as big a jerk as you want, but don't attack anyone other than me personally. And don't criticize people or companies other than me anonymously. Got something crappy to say? Say it under your real name. Anonymous potshots and personal attacks aimed at me, however, are fine.

Posted by: Ken Magill
Date: 2013-08-21 18:45:17
Subject: Spammer

Unless your name is actually Your Mama I can't libel you. Just sayin'
Posted by: Your Mama
Date: 2013-08-21 18:12:17
Subject: Spammers

Since you are calling me a "spammer", I suspect you can point to a spam sample, headers, complaint, or other form of evidence to support that claim without pointing to a Spamhaus listing? If not, I will remind you of the term "libel per-se"
Posted by: Your Mama
Date: 2013-08-21 18:06:03
Subject: Backpeddle

I will personally backpeddle a bit because you are correct that you are far from a NANAEite. You may very well be a "Terrorist Sympathizer" but to call you a Spamhaus Operative would be completely fallacious in nature. No one has done so either, but I have stated that you are being a bit two-faced because of the way you are taking Linford's direct quotes and opinions and using them to fill massive amounts of your sites data with it. It is almost as if you are seeking to combat STOPhaus in a content war. If that is the case, you would be Declaring War on US and we will happily react to that if that is the case.
Posted by: Your Mama
Date: 2013-08-21 18:02:12
Subject: Forgeries

Using a forgery to compare what STOPhaus does is also a bit inaccurate. We do not use forgery tactics, as we believe that "everyone has dirt in their lives, but some have simply paved over it and we have a jackhammer for that".
Posted by: Your Mama
Date: 2013-08-21 18:00:05
Subject: Two Faced

Ken, you are two-faced. You present yourself as a proponent for ethical email marketing and turn around and post multiple Linford-provided articles. Maybe you should simply cross-post the Spamhaus FAQ again and say it is your way of thinking. Put down the Koll-Aid Ken.
Posted by: Your Mama
Date: 2013-08-21 17:57:04
Subject: Response #1

Ken, no one has tried to censor you in any way. It's not like your server could withstand that attempt, so obviously it has not been done. No one has attacked you for your opinion. One of our supporters was less than tactful in their response, but in no way did anyone "LART" your ISP, blackmail your registrar with DoS or RBL listings, or publish smear data on your personal life. You sound like a child by trying to compare what STOPhaus does to anything remotely close to what Spamhaus does. Now, if you want to publish something on your site that we do not like, and is about us, be prepared to defend yourself as we dig up your life history and every measle or mump on your body and show it to the world. We have just as much of a right to do so as you do to publish Spamhaus propaganda.
Posted by: Jordan Cohen
Date: 2013-08-20 16:23:32
Subject: awesome

"And you know that drunken uncle every family dreads seeing on Thanksgiving? In my family, I am that drunken uncle." This is why I look up to you Ken. Great post.